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(OT) Debussy, Baudelaire, Che...
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David Kotschessa
2004-03-01 22:15:51 UTC
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I was reading bit on Debussy. Baudelaire, according to the writings
was his favorite poet. Anyway, it made me think of someone here...


Get Drunk!

One should always be drunk. That's all that matters;
that's our one imperative need. So as not to feel Time's
horrible burden one which breaks your shoulders and bows

you down, you must get drunk without cease.

But with what?
With wine, poetry, or virtue
as you choose.
But get drunk.

And if, at some time, on steps of a palace,
in the green grass of a ditch,
in the bleak solitude of your room,
you are waking and the drunkenness has already abated,
ask the wind, the wave, the stars, the clock,
all that which flees,
all that which groans,
all that which rolls,
all that which sings,
all that which speaks,
ask them, what time it is;
and the wind, the wave, the stars, the birds, and the clock,
they will all reply:

"It is time to get drunk!

So that you may not be the martyred slaves of Time,
get drunk, get drunk,
and never pause for rest!
With wine, poetry, or virtue,
as you choose!"
William Jennings
2004-03-01 22:12:15 UTC
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I'll have you know my flowers are not evil nor do I have sleen problems!

You made Che' cry!
Post by David Kotschessa
I was reading bit on Debussy. Baudelaire, according to the writings
was his favorite poet. Anyway, it made me think of someone here...
Get Drunk!
One should always be drunk. That's all that matters;
that's our one imperative need. So as not to feel Time's
horrible burden one which breaks your shoulders and bows
you down, you must get drunk without cease.
But with what?
With wine, poetry, or virtue
as you choose.
But get drunk.
And if, at some time, on steps of a palace,
in the green grass of a ditch,
in the bleak solitude of your room,
you are waking and the drunkenness has already abated,
ask the wind, the wave, the stars, the clock,
all that which flees,
all that which groans,
all that which rolls,
all that which sings,
all that which speaks,
ask them, what time it is;
and the wind, the wave, the stars, the birds, and the clock,
"It is time to get drunk!
So that you may not be the martyred slaves of Time,
get drunk, get drunk,
and never pause for rest!
With wine, poetry, or virtue,
as you choose!"
William Jennings
2004-03-01 23:12:17 UTC
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Post by William Jennings
I'll have you know my flowers are not evil nor do I have sleen
problems!

That's spleen ..... see I told you I couldn't spell. :-)

Che' Dummy
Post by William Jennings
You made Che' cry!
Post by David Kotschessa
I was reading bit on Debussy. Baudelaire, according to the writings
was his favorite poet. Anyway, it made me think of someone here...
Get Drunk!
One should always be drunk. That's all that matters;
that's our one imperative need. So as not to feel Time's
horrible burden one which breaks your shoulders and bows
you down, you must get drunk without cease.
But with what?
With wine, poetry, or virtue
as you choose.
But get drunk.
And if, at some time, on steps of a palace,
in the green grass of a ditch,
in the bleak solitude of your room,
you are waking and the drunkenness has already abated,
ask the wind, the wave, the stars, the clock,
all that which flees,
all that which groans,
all that which rolls,
all that which sings,
all that which speaks,
ask them, what time it is;
and the wind, the wave, the stars, the birds, and the clock,
"It is time to get drunk!
So that you may not be the martyred slaves of Time,
get drunk, get drunk,
and never pause for rest!
With wine, poetry, or virtue,
as you choose!"
John Wasak
2004-03-01 23:18:01 UTC
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Post by David Kotschessa
I was reading bit on Debussy. Baudelaire, according to the writings
was his favorite poet.
And the Symbolists poets Mallarmé, Verlaine, Rimbaud and Maeterlinck.
Mallarme's 'L'apres Midi d'un Faune' inspired Debussy's piece of the same
name and Maeterlinck's 'Pelleas et Melisande' inspired an opera by Debussy.


jw
Sam Culotta
2004-03-02 01:40:28 UTC
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Post by David Kotschessa
I was reading bit on Debussy. Baudelaire, according to the writings
was his favorite poet.
And the Symbolists poets Mallarmé, Verlaine, Rimbaud and Maeterlinck.
Mallarme's 'L'apres Midi d'un Faune' inspired Debussy's piece of the same
name and Maeterlinck's 'Pelleas et Melisande' inspired an opera by Debussy.
Aha! maybe that's why I've never been able to fully appreciate Debussy....
I've always listened to him without the aid of drugs.

:-)
Sam
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jw
John Wasak
2004-03-02 19:45:51 UTC
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Post by David Kotschessa
I was reading bit on Debussy. Baudelaire, according to the writings
was his favorite poet.
And the Symbolists poets Mallarmé, Verlaine, Rimbaud and Maeterlinck.
Mallarme's 'L'apres Midi d'un Faune' inspired Debussy's piece of the same
name and Maeterlinck's 'Pelleas et Melisande' inspired an opera by
Debussy.
Aha! maybe that's why I've never been able to fully appreciate Debussy....
I've always listened to him without the aid of drugs.
:-)
Sam
Better load up on the drugs, Sam. Ya' don't want to miss out on Debussy!
;-)


jw
David Kotschessa
2004-03-02 19:58:16 UTC
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Post by John Wasak
Better load up on the drugs, Sam. Ya' don't want to miss out on Debussy!
;-)
jw
In another post yesterday I stated I was getting this:
http://www.gspguitar.com/publctns/1_solo/simprdeb.html

It was mostly for the Debussy, but I'm interested in hearing some of the
other pieces in there as well.
John Wasak
2004-03-02 20:05:33 UTC
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Post by David Kotschessa
http://www.gspguitar.com/publctns/1_solo/simprdeb.html
It was mostly for the Debussy, but I'm interested in hearing some of the
other pieces in there as well.
I'm not actually a big fan of hearing Debussy's piano music played on the
guitar but if this is what interests you you might want to take a listen to
Anders Miolin's CD of all Debussy music played on the 10-string guitar. He
also, on separate CD's, does Ravel and Satie.


jw
David Kotschessa
2004-03-02 20:15:58 UTC
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Post by John Wasak
I'm not actually a big fan of hearing Debussy's piano music played on the
guitar but if this is what interests you you might want to take a listen to
Anders Miolin's CD of all Debussy music played on the 10-string guitar. He
also, on separate CD's, does Ravel and Satie.
I actually think most of it is meant for the piano and should be left
there. But when I was listening to Claire de Lune recently one of the
first things that jumped into my mind was that it sounded very adaptable
to guitar and someone should arrange it, and if not someone else then me.

I just checked out Anders Miolin's site. Wow, that's a lot of strings!
13 in fact, in one picture. Not sure if I am ready but I will give a
listen later to some of the things on his site.
John Wasak
2004-03-02 20:46:19 UTC
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David Kotschessa <***@somewhere.com> wrote
But when I was listening to Claire de Lune recently one of the
Post by David Kotschessa
first things that jumped into my mind was that it sounded very adaptable
to guitar and someone should arrange it, and if not someone else then me.
It's been done well on two guitars - that is, in duo by Presti-Lagoya, and
even by the duo of Bream and Williams
Post by David Kotschessa
I just checked out Anders Miolin's site. Wow, that's a lot of strings!
13 in fact, in one picture. Not sure if I am ready but I will give a
listen later to some of the things on his site.
That 13-stringer looks wild! ;-)


jw
David Kotschessa
2004-03-02 21:02:11 UTC
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Post by David Kotschessa
But when I was listening to Claire de Lune recently one of the
Post by David Kotschessa
first things that jumped into my mind was that it sounded very adaptable
to guitar and someone should arrange it, and if not someone else then me.
It's been done well on two guitars - that is, in duo by Presti-Lagoya, and
even by the duo of Bream and Williams
That works.
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Post by David Kotschessa
I just checked out Anders Miolin's site. Wow, that's a lot of strings!
13 in fact, in one picture. Not sure if I am ready but I will give a
listen later to some of the things on his site.
That 13-stringer looks wild! ;-)
I am very afraid.
Greg M. Silverman
2004-03-02 21:17:28 UTC
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Post by David Kotschessa
I just checked out Anders Miolin's site. Wow, that's a lot of strings!
13 in fact, in one picture. Not sure if I am ready but I will give a
listen later to some of the things on his site.
That 13-stringer looks wild! ;-)
I am very afraid.
don't be afraid young child, get a lute, 13-course Baroque in
particular. :-D

gms--
John Rethorst
2004-03-02 21:09:33 UTC
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Post by David Kotschessa
But when I was listening to Claire de Lune recently one of the
Post by David Kotschessa
first things that jumped into my mind was that it sounded very adaptable
to guitar and someone should arrange it, and if not someone else then me.
It's been done well on two guitars - that is, in duo by Presti-Lagoya, and
even by the duo of Bream and Williams
I think Angel Romero has a solo recording. Past posts on this group
suggest that the texture of the piece requires the sonority of a piano,
but I think that if anything the harmonic structure is clearer on guitar.
For a good solo arrangement, do a net search for David Lovell's MIDI
version, which your notation program, e.g. Overture, can quickly make into
sheet music, or Jack Marshall's arrangement in one of Christopher
Parkening's books.
--
John Rethorst

jrethorst -at- post -dot- com
saraband
2004-03-03 04:17:15 UTC
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Post by David Kotschessa
Post by John Wasak
I'm not actually a big fan of hearing Debussy's piano music played on the
guitar but if this is what interests you you might want to take a listen to
Anders Miolin's CD of all Debussy music played on the 10-string guitar. He
also, on separate CD's, does Ravel and Satie.
I actually think most of it is meant for the piano and should be left
there. But when I was listening to Claire de Lune recently one of the
first things that jumped into my mind was that it sounded very adaptable
to guitar and someone should arrange it, and if not someone else then me.
I just checked out Anders Miolin's site. Wow, that's a lot of strings!
13 in fact, in one picture. Not sure if I am ready but I will give a
listen later to some of the things on his site.
I have an arrangement of Claire de Lune by Francis Kleynjans,
published by Editions Henry Lemoine. His approach is a kind of
guitaristic reinvention of the piece - I like it.
Matanya Ophee
2004-03-03 03:17:35 UTC
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Post by Sam Culotta
Aha! maybe that's why I've never been able to fully appreciate Debussy....
How's you appreciation quotient for Debussy Fields?

MO.
Sam Culotta
2004-03-03 05:00:34 UTC
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Post by Sam Culotta
Aha! maybe that's why I've never been able to fully appreciate Debussy....
How's you appreciation quotient for Debussy Fields?
MO.
Who dat?

Sam
Matanya Ophee
2004-03-03 16:28:24 UTC
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Post by Matanya Ophee
Post by Sam Culotta
Aha! maybe that's why I've never been able to fully appreciate
Debussy....
Post by Matanya Ophee
How's you appreciation quotient for Debussy Fields?
MO.
Who dat?
You are datting yourself, young man....
Greg M. Silverman
2004-03-03 16:35:07 UTC
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Post by Sam Culotta
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Post by Sam Culotta
Aha! maybe that's why I've never been able to fully appreciate
Debussy....
Post by Matanya Ophee
How's you appreciation quotient for Debussy Fields?
MO.
Who dat?
You are datting yourself, young man....
didn't John Lennon write a song about Mr. Fields,


Let me take you to Debussy Fields

Where La Mer is real

And Trois Nocturnes to get hung about

Debussy Fields forever....


gms--
John Wasak
2004-03-04 01:29:30 UTC
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didn't John Lennon write a song about Mr. Fields,
I thought it was Mrs. Fields. That is 'Give Chocolate Chip Cookies a
Chance'....



jw
Post by Greg M. Silverman
Let me take you to Debussy Fields
Where La Mer is real
And Trois Nocturnes to get hung about
Debussy Fields forever....
gms--
Sam Culotta
2004-03-04 01:55:50 UTC
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Post by Greg M. Silverman
didn't John Lennon write a song about Mr. Fields,
I thought it was Mrs. Fields. That is 'Give Chocolate Chip Cookies a
Chance'....
Yeah , Totie Fields.

Sam
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Post by Greg M. Silverman
Let me take you to Debussy Fields
Where La Mer is real
And Trois Nocturnes to get hung about
Debussy Fields forever....
gms--
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