Discussion:
Scientific analysis suggests Billy Meier UFO photos may be genuine
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Tashi
2009-11-10 03:06:19 UTC
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http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
Tommy Grand
2009-11-10 03:12:19 UTC
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Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
Indeed, all snarky comments about "obvious fakery" aside, the fact
remains that not a SINGLE debunker has managed to duplicate even ONE
of Meier's photos. The guy who did all the visual effects for the
movie 2001 said it would cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars to
fake the photos. Now where would a one-armed peasant get that kind of
money?

Michael Horn is the best spokesman for this material. Check out this
interview:

Tashi
2009-11-10 16:04:35 UTC
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Post by Tommy Grand
Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
Indeed, all snarky comments about "obvious fakery" aside, the fact
remains that not a SINGLE debunker has managed to duplicate even ONE
of Meier's photos.  The guy who did all the visual effects for the
movie 2001 said it would cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars to
fake the photos.  Now where would a one-armed peasant get that kind of
money?
Michael Horn is the best spokesman for this material.  Check out this
http://youtu.be/ZhAyIrNgkMY
Michael Horn was on coast to coast yesterday, I will listen to the
interview today. Those are some amazing craft! Hindu's call them
"Vimana".


UFO's in art....
http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_eng.htm
dsi1
2009-11-10 18:49:28 UTC
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Post by Tommy Grand
Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
Indeed, all snarky comments about "obvious fakery" aside, the fact
remains that not a SINGLE debunker has managed to duplicate even ONE
of Meier's photos. The guy who did all the visual effects for the
movie 2001 said it would cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars to
fake the photos. Now where would a one-armed peasant get that kind of
money?
Michael Horn is the best spokesman for this material. Check out this
interview: http://youtu.be/ZhAyIrNgkMY
You don't need expensive photometric equipment and a team of researchers
to analyze this simple shot! Your average guy who knows about cameras
and lenses could give you the scoops on this picture. The UFO is blurry
because it's outside of the field of focus i.e., he's holding that toy
too darn close to the camera. My suggestion is that he stop down the
aperture way down and/or use a longer lens. Then again, where would a
one-armed peasant get that kind of money?

This kind of "trick photography" used to be more popular in the 50s and
60s. It's old school baby! I'll bet Mr. Meier is into model trains.
Tommy Grand
2009-11-10 18:55:06 UTC
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Post by dsi1
Post by Tommy Grand
Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
Indeed, all snarky comments about "obvious fakery" aside, the fact
remains that not a SINGLE debunker has managed to duplicate even ONE
of Meier's photos.  The guy who did all the visual effects for the
movie 2001 said it would cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars to
fake the photos.  Now where would a one-armed peasant get that kind of
money?
Michael Horn is the best spokesman for this material.  Check out this
http://youtu.be/ZhAyIrNgkMY
You don't need expensive photometric equipment and a team of researchers
to analyze this simple shot! Your average guy who knows about cameras
and lenses could give you the scoops on this picture. The UFO is blurry
because it's outside of the field of focus i.e., he's holding that toy
too darn close to the camera. My suggestion is that he stop down the
aperture way down and/or use a longer lens. Then again, where would a
one-armed peasant get that kind of money?
This kind of "trick photography" used to be more popular in the 50s and
60s. It's old school baby! I'll bet Mr. Meier is into model trains.
Yes yes, it's all such obvious fakery. Funny how everyone who has
attempted to duplicate the 'hoax' pictures has FAILED.
Tashi
2009-11-10 19:02:27 UTC
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Post by dsi1
Post by Tommy Grand
Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
Indeed, all snarky comments about "obvious fakery" aside, the fact
remains that not a SINGLE debunker has managed to duplicate even ONE
of Meier's photos.  The guy who did all the visual effects for the
movie 2001 said it would cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars to
fake the photos.  Now where would a one-armed peasant get that kind of
money?
Michael Horn is the best spokesman for this material.  Check out this
http://youtu.be/ZhAyIrNgkMY
You don't need expensive photometric equipment and a team of researchers
to analyze this simple shot! Your average guy who knows about cameras
and lenses could give you the scoops on this picture. The UFO is blurry
because it's outside of the field of focus i.e., he's holding that toy
too darn close to the camera. My suggestion is that he stop down the
aperture way down and/or use a longer lens. Then again, where would a
one-armed peasant get that kind of money?
This kind of "trick photography" used to be more popular in the 50s and
60s. It's old school baby! I'll bet Mr. Meier is into model trains.
Yes yes, it's all such obvious fakery.  Funny how everyone who has
attempted to duplicate the 'hoax' pictures has FAILED.
I'm in awe how time, and time, again dsi can solve the worlds toughest
problems in a single sentence!
dsi1
2009-11-10 19:43:43 UTC
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Post by Tashi
Post by Tommy Grand
Post by dsi1
Post by Tommy Grand
Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
Indeed, all snarky comments about "obvious fakery" aside, the fact
remains that not a SINGLE debunker has managed to duplicate even ONE
of Meier's photos. The guy who did all the visual effects for the
movie 2001 said it would cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars to
fake the photos. Now where would a one-armed peasant get that kind of
money?
Michael Horn is the best spokesman for this material. Check out this
http://youtu.be/ZhAyIrNgkMY
You don't need expensive photometric equipment and a team of researchers
to analyze this simple shot! Your average guy who knows about cameras
and lenses could give you the scoops on this picture. The UFO is blurry
because it's outside of the field of focus i.e., he's holding that toy
too darn close to the camera. My suggestion is that he stop down the
aperture way down and/or use a longer lens. Then again, where would a
one-armed peasant get that kind of money?
This kind of "trick photography" used to be more popular in the 50s and
60s. It's old school baby! I'll bet Mr. Meier is into model trains.
Yes yes, it's all such obvious fakery. Funny how everyone who has
attempted to duplicate the 'hoax' pictures has FAILED.
I'm in awe how time, and time, again dsi can solve the worlds toughest
problems in a single sentence!
What are you bitching about now? Simple truth? :-)
Paul B. Anders
2009-11-10 19:37:19 UTC
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Yes yes, it's all such obvious fakery.  Funny how everyone who has
attempted to duplicate the 'hoax' pictures has FAILED.- Hide quoted text -
I agree. The alternative explanation as to why nobody has duplicated
the pictures is that alien creatures that resemble alligators have
figured out how to create spacecraft that can cross interstellar
distances, but have not yet figured out how to land them, forcing them
to hover aimlessly, until scared off by scrawny-looking bipeds. It's
clear there's no other explanation.

Brad Anders
Tommy Grand
2009-11-10 19:42:55 UTC
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Post by Paul B. Anders
Yes yes, it's all such obvious fakery.  Funny how everyone who has
attempted to duplicate the 'hoax' pictures has FAILED.- Hide quoted text -
I agree. The alternative explanation as to why nobody has duplicated
the pictures is that alien creatures that resemble alligators have
figured out how to create spacecraft that can cross interstellar
distances, but have not yet figured out how to land them, forcing them
to hover aimlessly, until scared off by scrawny-looking bipeds. It's
clear there's no other explanation.
Brad Anders
Actually the Plejaren closely resemble Earthlings. It might be nice
to inform yourself before you make snarky comments.
Paul B. Anders
2009-11-10 19:46:06 UTC
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Post by Paul B. Anders
Yes yes, it's all such obvious fakery.  Funny how everyone who has
attempted to duplicate the 'hoax' pictures has FAILED.- Hide quoted text -
I agree. The alternative explanation as to why nobody has duplicated
the pictures is that alien creatures that resemble alligators have
figured out how to create spacecraft that can cross interstellar
distances, but have not yet figured out how to land them, forcing them
to hover aimlessly, until scared off by scrawny-looking bipeds. It's
clear there's no other explanation.
Brad Anders
Actually the Plejaren closely resemble Earthlings.  It might be nice
to inform yourself before you make snarky comments.
Nothing snarky, I really believe there are aliens among us. What other
explanation is there for Palin?

Brad Anders
Slogoin
2009-11-10 20:41:41 UTC
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Post by Paul B. Anders
Nothing snarky, I really believe there are aliens among us. What other
explanation is there for Palin?
How dare you imply aliens would even want to live amongst humans!
Palin is the quintessential human who exemplifies why no alien in
their right mind would want to contact humans any more than a human
would want to contact a pack of rabid wild boar.
Paul B. Anders
2009-11-10 20:55:56 UTC
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Post by Paul B. Anders
Nothing snarky, I really believe there are aliens among us. What other
explanation is there for Palin?
   How dare you imply aliens would even want to live amongst humans!
Palin is the quintessential human who exemplifies why no alien in
their right mind would want to contact humans any more than a human
would want to contact a pack of rabid wild boar.
You clearly don't understand the interest in humans by aliens. It's
all the delicious prime cuts.

Brad Anders
John LaCroix
2009-11-10 21:29:35 UTC
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Post by Paul B. Anders
Nothing snarky, I really believe there are aliens among us. What other
explanation is there for Palin?
   How dare you imply aliens would even want to live amongst humans!
Palin is the quintessential human who exemplifies why no alien in
their right mind would want to contact humans any more than a human
would want to contact a pack of rabid wild boar.
Palin would shoot any alien from a helicopter, thank Jesus, then cut
off it's head to mount on her wall...
dsi1
2009-11-10 21:17:10 UTC
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Post by Paul B. Anders
Nothing snarky, I really believe there are aliens among us. What other
explanation is there for Palin?
I like your thinking. It's absolutely absurd but does have that most
desirable quality of not being the horrible truth. :-)
Post by Paul B. Anders
Brad Anders
William D Clinger
2009-11-10 20:41:53 UTC
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Post by Tommy Grand
Actually the Plejaren closely resemble Earthlings. It might be nice
to inform yourself before you make snarky comments.
Indeed, one of them won the Mistress California
contest a few months back, but was recalled to
the mother ship for repairs and to film an alien
sex tape.
Tommy Grand
2009-11-10 20:50:17 UTC
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Post by William D Clinger
Actually the Plejaren closely resemble Earthlings.  It might be nice
to inform yourself before you make snarky comments.
Indeed, one of them won the Mistress California
contest a few months back, but was recalled to
the mother ship for repairs and to film an alien
sex tape.
http://www.steelmarkonline.com/ptaah.htm
William D Clinger
2009-11-11 03:45:14 UTC
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Post by Tommy Grand
Post by William D Clinger
Actually the Plejaren closely resemble Earthlings.  It might be nice
to inform yourself before you make snarky comments.
Indeed, one of them won the Mistress California
contest a few months back, but was recalled to
the mother ship for repairs and to film an alien
sex tape.
http://www.steelmarkonline.com/ptaah.htm
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Tommy Grand
2009-11-11 03:58:37 UTC
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Post by William D Clinger
Post by Tommy Grand
Post by William D Clinger
Actually the Plejaren closely resemble Earthlings.  It might be nice
to inform yourself before you make snarky comments.
Indeed, one of them won the Mistress California
contest a few months back, but was recalled to
the mother ship for repairs and to film an alien
sex tape.
http://www.steelmarkonline.com/ptaah.htm
http://www.tjresearch.info/Asket%20&%20double.jpg
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Tashi
2009-11-11 04:34:04 UTC
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Post by Tommy Grand
Post by William D Clinger
Post by Tommy Grand
Post by William D Clinger
Actually the Plejaren closely resemble Earthlings.  It might be nice
to inform yourself before you make snarky comments.
Indeed, one of them won the Mistress California
contest a few months back, but was recalled to
the mother ship for repairs and to film an alien
sex tape.
http://www.steelmarkonline.com/ptaah.htm
http://www.tjresearch.info/Asket%20&%20double.jpg
http://www.anomalyradio.com/site/wp-content/uploads/disinfo1.jpg
I like that!
Andrew Schulman
2009-11-11 01:17:40 UTC
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Post by William D Clinger
Actually the Plejaren closely resemble Earthlings.  It might be nice
to inform yourself before you make snarky comments.
Indeed, one of them won the Mistress California
contest a few months back, but was recalled to
the mother ship for repairs and to film an alien
sex tape.
Dear Marklar,

Your marklar was very interesting, but if she is into marklar than
it's a marklar that she is actually from California originally.

Marklar,

Andrew
dsi1
2009-11-10 19:41:44 UTC
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Post by Tommy Grand
Yes yes, it's all such obvious fakery. Funny how everyone who has
attempted to duplicate the 'hoax' pictures has FAILED.
If you're talking about the toy emitting IR radiation, it would probably
mean the object was warmer than the surrounding objects. If you're
talking about mystery radiation being captured on the film - it's
probably defects in the film or processing or in the mystery detection
process. If you're talking about some special effects guy saying he
couldn't duplicate this really cheesy photo, that reality is that he has
said this was not true.

What's the big deal anyway? I'll defend your right to dish out the most
fantasmagorical tales on this forum. Don't dis me for giving out my tiny
simple truths.
edspyhill01
2009-11-11 04:35:07 UTC
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Post by dsi1
Post by Tommy Grand
Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
Indeed, all snarky comments about "obvious fakery" aside, the fact
remains that not a SINGLE debunker has managed to duplicate even ONE
of Meier's photos.  The guy who did all the visual effects for the
movie 2001 said it would cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars to
fake the photos.  Now where would a one-armed peasant get that kind of
money?
Michael Horn is the best spokesman for this material.  Check out this
http://youtu.be/ZhAyIrNgkMY
You don't need expensive photometric equipment and a team of researchers
to analyze this simple shot! Your average guy who knows about cameras
and lenses could give you the scoops on this picture. The UFO is blurry
because it's outside of the field of focus i.e., he's holding that toy
too darn close to the camera. My suggestion is that he stop down the
aperture way down and/or use a longer lens. Then again, where would a
one-armed peasant get that kind of money?
This kind of "trick photography" used to be more popular in the 50s and
60s. It's old school baby! I'll bet Mr. Meier is into model trains.
Yes yes, it's all such obvious fakery.  Funny how everyone who has
attempted to duplicate the 'hoax' pictures has FAILED.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
They are totally bogus. They look like non-engineering concepts of
flying machines. If there are no Spruce or cedar decking on the upper
surfaces how can I take these things serious. These loony people
should redirect thier energies to fixing real problems that exist
throughout the world. "The spacemen will save us" is the same thing
as "god will save us". Same immature passive inaction that keeps the
criminals in charge.
Tommy Grand
2009-11-11 04:43:50 UTC
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Post by dsi1
Post by Tommy Grand
Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
Indeed, all snarky comments about "obvious fakery" aside, the fact
remains that not a SINGLE debunker has managed to duplicate even ONE
of Meier's photos.  The guy who did all the visual effects for the
movie 2001 said it would cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars to
fake the photos.  Now where would a one-armed peasant get that kind of
money?
Michael Horn is the best spokesman for this material.  Check out this
http://youtu.be/ZhAyIrNgkMY
You don't need expensive photometric equipment and a team of researchers
to analyze this simple shot! Your average guy who knows about cameras
and lenses could give you the scoops on this picture. The UFO is blurry
because it's outside of the field of focus i.e., he's holding that toy
too darn close to the camera. My suggestion is that he stop down the
aperture way down and/or use a longer lens. Then again, where would a
one-armed peasant get that kind of money?
This kind of "trick photography" used to be more popular in the 50s and
60s. It's old school baby! I'll bet Mr. Meier is into model trains.
Yes yes, it's all such obvious fakery.  Funny how everyone who has
attempted to duplicate the 'hoax' pictures has FAILED.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
They are totally bogus.  They look like non-engineering concepts of
flying machines.  If there are no Spruce or cedar decking on the upper
surfaces how can I take these things serious.  These loony people
should redirect thier energies to fixing real problems that exist
throughout the world.  "The spacemen will save us" is the same thing
as "god will save us".  Same immature passive inaction that keeps the
criminals in charge.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Actually, had you researched the case you'd know that the Plejaren are
not going to save us. Instead, they urge us to save ourselves.
Wollybird
2009-11-11 12:28:35 UTC
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 These loony people
Post by edspyhill01
should redirect thier energies to fixing real problems that exist
throughout the world.  "The spacemen will save us" is the same thing
as "god will save us".
Suddenly, the concept of flying saucer makes sense. They're there to
keep people like Mike out of trouble.
Tashi
2009-11-11 15:35:56 UTC
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  These loony people
Post by edspyhill01
should redirect thier energies to fixing real problems that exist
throughout the world.  "The spacemen will save us" is the same thing
as "god will save us".
Suddenly, the concept of flying saucer makes sense. They're there to
keep people like Mike out of trouble.
Wolli, your brand of humor is growing tiresome, routine, and
redundant. I can't quite put my finger on it, but something happened
recently, you lost your MOJO. Do you feel it too?
Paul B. Anders
2009-11-10 03:16:13 UTC
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Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
Thanks, that's the funniest thing I've seen since "Armageddon".
Tashi
2009-11-10 03:44:02 UTC
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Post by Paul B. Anders
Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
Thanks, that's the funniest thing I've seen since "Armageddon".
You've seen Armageddon and live to tell about it? Now that's the
funniest thing I've ever heard!
ycleptor2@cs.com
2009-11-10 17:26:03 UTC
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Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
The aliens still strike me as afraid of squirrels. Is that the reason
why their feeder craft appear squirrel-proof?
edspyhill01
2009-11-11 04:35:53 UTC
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Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
The aliens still strike me as afraid of squirrels. Is that the reason
why their feeder craft appear squirrel-proof?
They grow green-eyed beans from venus in those crafts.
Tashi
2009-11-11 04:49:49 UTC
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Post by edspyhill01
Post by ***@cs.com
Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
The aliens still strike me as afraid of squirrels. Is that the reason
why their feeder craft appear squirrel-proof?
They grow green-eyed beans from venus in those crafts.
Ed, your just another goofy daffy goo goo brain, with no respect for
understanding anything existing outside your line of sight. Go back
to sleep and dream of Obama, and your beloved Democrats, tickling your
ass with a soft feather.
edspyhill01
2009-11-11 11:51:06 UTC
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Post by Tashi
Post by edspyhill01
Post by ***@cs.com
Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
The aliens still strike me as afraid of squirrels. Is that the reason
why their feeder craft appear squirrel-proof?
They grow green-eyed beans from venus in those crafts.
Ed, your just another goofy daffy goo goo brain, with no respect for
understanding anything existing outside your line of sight.  Go back
to sleep and dream of Obama, and your beloved Democrats, tickling your
ass with a soft feather.
Still can't get past the first Noble truth - life is suffering, or
"unsatisfactory". God/mommy/daddy/savior is not returning in a
trashcan lid. It is funny how you react to opposing opinions. You
sputter and spit and do a few tazmanian devil spins then launch ad
hominem attacks.
Tashi
2009-11-11 15:30:51 UTC
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Post by edspyhill01
Post by Tashi
Post by edspyhill01
Post by ***@cs.com
Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
The aliens still strike me as afraid of squirrels. Is that the reason
why their feeder craft appear squirrel-proof?
They grow green-eyed beans from venus in those crafts.
Ed, your just another goofy daffy goo goo brain, with no respect for
understanding anything existing outside your line of sight.  Go back
to sleep and dream of Obama, and your beloved Democrats, tickling your
ass with a soft feather.
Still can't get past the first Noble truth - life is suffering, or
"unsatisfactory".  God/mommy/daddy/savior is not returning in a
trashcan lid.  It is funny how you react to opposing opinions.  You
sputter and spit and do a few tazmanian devil spins then launch ad
hominem attacks.
Yes, I indeed do have low tolerance for people like you, who refuse to
look at the facts, yet offer mockery, jokes etc., then pull the
religion card to back themselves up.
Tommy Grand
2009-11-11 15:40:29 UTC
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Post by Tashi
Post by edspyhill01
Post by Tashi
Post by edspyhill01
Post by ***@cs.com
Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
The aliens still strike me as afraid of squirrels. Is that the reason
why their feeder craft appear squirrel-proof?
They grow green-eyed beans from venus in those crafts.
Ed, your just another goofy daffy goo goo brain, with no respect for
understanding anything existing outside your line of sight.  Go back
to sleep and dream of Obama, and your beloved Democrats, tickling your
ass with a soft feather.
Still can't get past the first Noble truth - life is suffering, or
"unsatisfactory".  God/mommy/daddy/savior is not returning in a
trashcan lid.  It is funny how you react to opposing opinions.  You
sputter and spit and do a few tazmanian devil spins then launch ad
hominem attacks.
Yes, I indeed do have low tolerance for people like you, who refuse to
look at the facts, yet offer mockery, jokes etc., then pull the
religion card to back themselves up.- Hide quoted text -
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And this guy claims to be a C2C fan!
Tashi
2009-11-11 15:53:02 UTC
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Post by Tommy Grand
Post by Tashi
Post by edspyhill01
Post by Tashi
Post by edspyhill01
Post by ***@cs.com
Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
The aliens still strike me as afraid of squirrels. Is that the reason
why their feeder craft appear squirrel-proof?
They grow green-eyed beans from venus in those crafts.
Ed, your just another goofy daffy goo goo brain, with no respect for
understanding anything existing outside your line of sight.  Go back
to sleep and dream of Obama, and your beloved Democrats, tickling your
ass with a soft feather.
Still can't get past the first Noble truth - life is suffering, or
"unsatisfactory".  God/mommy/daddy/savior is not returning in a
trashcan lid.  It is funny how you react to opposing opinions.  You
sputter and spit and do a few tazmanian devil spins then launch ad
hominem attacks.
Yes, I indeed do have low tolerance for people like you, who refuse to
look at the facts, yet offer mockery, jokes etc., then pull the
religion card to back themselves up.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
And this guy claims to be a C2C fan!
Ed's hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Tommy Grand
2009-11-11 16:04:44 UTC
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Post by Tommy Grand
Post by Tashi
Post by edspyhill01
Post by Tashi
Post by edspyhill01
Post by ***@cs.com
Post by Tashi
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php
The aliens still strike me as afraid of squirrels. Is that the reason
why their feeder craft appear squirrel-proof?
They grow green-eyed beans from venus in those crafts.
Ed, your just another goofy daffy goo goo brain, with no respect for
understanding anything existing outside your line of sight.  Go back
to sleep and dream of Obama, and your beloved Democrats, tickling your
ass with a soft feather.
Still can't get past the first Noble truth - life is suffering, or
"unsatisfactory".  God/mommy/daddy/savior is not returning in a
trashcan lid.  It is funny how you react to opposing opinions.  You
sputter and spit and do a few tazmanian devil spins then launch ad
hominem attacks.
Yes, I indeed do have low tolerance for people like you, who refuse to
look at the facts, yet offer mockery, jokes etc., then pull the
religion card to back themselves up.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
And this guy claims to be a C2C fan!
Ed's hypocrisy knows no bounds.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Indeed...

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