Discussion:
One good thing about the new "Great Depression"
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Lutemann
2008-10-10 21:07:16 UTC
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If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change. If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long. Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
Augustine
2008-10-10 22:56:52 UTC
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If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change.  If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long.  Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
For once I can say it: I almost completely agree with you! "Almost"
because it's actually gone on for about 55 years too long.
e***@yahoo.com
2008-10-11 01:21:03 UTC
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If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change.  If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long.  Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
For once I can say it: I almost completely agree with you! "Almost"
because it's actually gone on for about 55 years too long.
Mr. judgmental, with emphasis in mental.
Augustine
2008-10-11 04:22:55 UTC
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Mr. judgmental, with emphasis in mental.
Haven't you just doubly judged me? That is, as both judgmental and
nuts? Explain.
e***@yahoo.com
2008-10-11 05:50:29 UTC
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Mr. judgmental, with emphasis in mental.
Haven't you just doubly judged me? That is, as both judgmental and
nuts? Explain.
No. You have a closed mind.
Augustine
2008-10-11 14:48:24 UTC
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Mr. judgmental, with emphasis in mental.
Haven't you just doubly judged me? That is, as both judgmental and
nuts? Explain.
No.  You have a closed mind.
And there's yet a third judgment. Allan Bloom was right: the law of
non-contradiction has been repealed. He was also right about this:

"There is one thing a professor can be absolutely certain of: almost
every student entering the university believes, or says he believes,
that truth is relative....Relativism is necessary to openness, and
this is the virtue, the only virtue, which all primary education for
more than fifty years has dedicated itself to inculcating....To put
the matter at its baldest, we live in a thought-world, and the
thinking has gone very bad indeed."

-Allan Bloom, The Closing of the American Mind
Steven Bornfeld
2008-10-11 14:53:27 UTC
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Mr. judgmental, with emphasis in mental.
Haven't you just doubly judged me? That is, as both judgmental and
nuts? Explain.
No. You have a closed mind.
And there's yet a third judgment. Allan Bloom was right: the law of
"There is one thing a professor can be absolutely certain of: almost
every student entering the university believes, or says he believes,
that truth is relative....Relativism is necessary to openness, and
this is the virtue, the only virtue, which all primary education for
more than fifty years has dedicated itself to inculcating....To put
the matter at its baldest, we live in a thought-world, and the
thinking has gone very bad indeed."
-Allan Bloom, The Closing of the American Mind
I have another title for that book. "The Whining of an American Mind"
Augustine
2008-10-11 17:18:05 UTC
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I have another title for that book.  "The Whining of an American Mind"
Read it, have you? Tell the truth.
Miguel de Maria
2008-10-11 15:13:49 UTC
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Mr. judgmental, with emphasis in mental.
Haven't you just doubly judged me? That is, as both judgmental and
nuts? Explain.
No.  You have a closed mind.
And there's yet a third judgment. Allan Bloom was right: the law of
"There is one thing a professor can be absolutely certain of: almost
every student entering the university believes, or says he believes,
that truth is relative....Relativism is necessary to openness, and
this is the virtue, the only virtue, which all primary education for
more than fifty years has dedicated itself to inculcating....To put
the matter at its baldest, we live in a thought-world, and the
thinking has gone very bad indeed."
-Allan Bloom, The Closing of the American Mind
Jackson,
I hope you don't mind me bothering you--I just wanted to congratulate
you on your repartee. You are just cutting poor Ed to shreds! I
wouldn't want to be on the other side of that well-honed epee. Your
erudition, wisdom, and creativity are on display with each brutal
thrust! With one sentence, you convey more brilliance than a million
of our sloppy, dull dronings. We must follow your links, attempt to
understand your pithy words, and somehow use this to elevate ourselves
above the mediocrity of modern life. Thank you, Great One!
Augustine
2008-10-11 17:23:44 UTC
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Mr. judgmental, with emphasis in mental.
Haven't you just doubly judged me? That is, as both judgmental and
nuts? Explain.
No.  You have a closed mind.
And there's yet a third judgment. Allan Bloom was right: the law of
"There is one thing a professor can be absolutely certain of: almost
every student entering the university believes, or says he believes,
that truth is relative....Relativism is necessary to openness, and
this is the virtue, the only virtue, which all primary education for
more than fifty years has dedicated itself to inculcating....To put
the matter at its baldest, we live in a thought-world, and the
thinking has gone very bad indeed."
-Allan Bloom, The Closing of the American Mind
Jackson,
I hope you don't mind me bothering you--I just wanted to congratulate
you on your repartee.  You are just cutting poor Ed to shreds!  I
wouldn't want to be on the other side of that well-honed epee.  Your
erudition, wisdom, and creativity are on display with each brutal
thrust!  With one sentence, you convey more brilliance than a million
of our sloppy, dull dronings.  We must follow your links, attempt to
understand your pithy words, and somehow use this to elevate ourselves
above the mediocrity of modern life.  Thank you, Great One!
In other words, you approve of that half-educated nitwit constantly
railing against "the Neo-Conservatives" without having read a single
"Neo-Conservative" work. That's all you needed to say. You're birds of
a feather.
Miguel de Maria
2008-10-11 18:58:38 UTC
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Post by e***@yahoo.com
Mr. judgmental, with emphasis in mental.
Haven't you just doubly judged me? That is, as both judgmental and
nuts? Explain.
No.  You have a closed mind.
And there's yet a third judgment. Allan Bloom was right: the law of
"There is one thing a professor can be absolutely certain of: almost
every student entering the university believes, or says he believes,
that truth is relative....Relativism is necessary to openness, and
this is the virtue, the only virtue, which all primary education for
more than fifty years has dedicated itself to inculcating....To put
the matter at its baldest, we live in a thought-world, and the
thinking has gone very bad indeed."
-Allan Bloom, The Closing of the American Mind
Jackson,
I hope you don't mind me bothering you--I just wanted to congratulate
you on your repartee.  You are just cutting poor Ed to shreds!  I
wouldn't want to be on the other side of that well-honed epee.  Your
erudition, wisdom, and creativity are on display with each brutal
thrust!  With one sentence, you convey more brilliance than a million
of our sloppy, dull dronings.  We must follow your links, attempt to
understand your pithy words, and somehow use this to elevate ourselves
above the mediocrity of modern life.  Thank you, Great One!
In other words, you approve of that half-educated nitwit constantly
railing against "the Neo-Conservatives" without having read a single
"Neo-Conservative" work. That's all you needed to say. You're birds of
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Ah, another unkind, unblockable thrust--you have blasted me aside with
your cruel, yet so true, words as if I were nothing! Not a fair
fight, is it, but one must play the cards he is dealt...
Jonathan
2008-10-11 18:23:24 UTC
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Mr. judgmental, with emphasis in mental.
Haven't you just doubly judged me? That is, as both judgmental and
nuts? Explain.
No.  You have a closed mind.
And there's yet a third judgment. Allan Bloom was right: the law of
"There is one thing a professor can be absolutely certain of: almost
every student entering the university believes, or says he believes,
that truth is relative....Relativism is necessary to openness, and
this is the virtue, the only virtue, which all primary education for
more than fifty years has dedicated itself to inculcating....To put
the matter at its baldest, we live in a thought-world, and the
thinking has gone very bad indeed."
-Allan Bloom, The Closing of the American Mind
I'm curious to hear one of your absolute truths to prove your point.
Augustine
2008-10-11 23:21:42 UTC
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I'm curious to hear one of your absolute truths to prove your point.
Here's one:

There are absolute truths.
d***@gmail.com
2008-10-11 23:44:58 UTC
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I'm curious to hear one of your absolute truths to prove your point.
There are absolute truths.
Name one?
John R.
2008-10-11 23:54:34 UTC
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Post by Jonathan
I'm curious to hear one of your absolute truths to prove your point.
There are absolute truths.
Name one?
Absolute zero!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_zero

John
Jonathan
2008-10-13 13:58:47 UTC
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I'm curious to hear one of your absolute truths to prove your point.
There are absolute truths.
Name one?
Absolute zero!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_zero
John
I'm not sure if that's meant to be tongue-in-cheek, but it seems to me
that slapping a label on an empirical phenomenon hardly qualifies as
"truth."
I would think that "truth" in the great philosophical tradition would
have to contain some degree of meaning.

And at the end of the day, once you boil away all the obfuscation and
grandiosity of those who would state otherwise, you can't have "truth"
without interpretation.
Therefore, the concept of absolute truth is pretty unobtainable.

Furthermore, when you consider the fact that nobody could possibly get
elected to any serious office in this nation without professing a
devotion to the prevailing mythology of the times (whether they really
believe in it or not), I would say that we live in more of a
"dictatorship of absolutism" than a dictatorship of relativism.
Lutemann
2008-10-13 17:45:59 UTC
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Post by Augustine
Post by Jonathan
I'm curious to hear one of your absolute truths to prove your point.
There are absolute truths.
Name one?
Absolute zero!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_zero
John
I'm not sure if that's meant to be tongue-in-cheek, but it seems to me
that slapping a label on an empirical phenomenon hardly qualifies as
"truth."
I would think that "truth" in the great philosophical tradition would
have to contain some degree of meaning.
And at the end of the day, once you boil away all the obfuscation and
grandiosity of those who would state otherwise, you can't have "truth"
without interpretation.
Therefore, the concept of absolute truth is pretty unobtainable.
Furthermore, when you consider the fact that nobody could possibly get
elected to any serious office in this nation without professing a
devotion to the prevailing mythology of the times (whether they really
believe in it or not), I would say that we live in more of a
"dictatorship of absolutism" than a dictatorship of relativism.
That's right, you cannot declare yourself an atheist and run for the
presidency. What's really sad is that anyone would bother to ask you
about your religion. Both McCain and Obama are atheists/agnostics.
The only good thing about religion is that it is easy to fake. It's
not like jesus is going to come down from the heavens and denounce you
for lying about your faith.

Jonathan
2008-10-12 00:14:01 UTC
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Post by Augustine
Post by Jonathan
I'm curious to hear one of your absolute truths to prove your point.
There are absolute truths.
Translated:

"There are absolute truths because I read it in a book once"
Augustine
2008-10-11 14:49:35 UTC
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Mr. judgmental, with emphasis in mental.
Haven't you just doubly judged me? That is, as both judgmental and
nuts? Explain.
No.  You have a closed mind.
By the way, having trouble providing us with a list of the "Neo-
Conservative" works you've read? Are you not open to actually reading
them?
e***@yahoo.com
2008-10-11 15:04:41 UTC
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Post by Augustine
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Mr. judgmental, with emphasis in mental.
Haven't you just doubly judged me? That is, as both judgmental and
nuts? Explain.
No.  You have a closed mind.
By the way, having trouble providing us with a list of the "Neo-
Conservative" works you've read? Are you not open to actually reading
them?
No. I don't have time to waste. Make any assumptions you care to.
Just keep them to yourself.
Augustine
2008-10-11 17:21:14 UTC
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No.  I don't have time to waste.  Make any assumptions you care to.
Just keep them to yourself.
I'll make a conclusion instead: You're a shameless trog. Your number
is legion.
e***@yahoo.com
2008-10-11 18:28:17 UTC
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No.  I don't have time to waste.  Make any assumptions you care to.
Just keep them to yourself.
I'll make a conclusion instead: You're a shameless trog. Your number
is legion.
How long did it take you to dig up an obsolete English word?
Augustine
2008-10-11 23:22:20 UTC
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Post by Augustine
No.  I don't have time to waste.  Make any assumptions you care to.
Just keep them to yourself.
I'll make a conclusion instead: You're a shameless trog. Your number
is legion.
How long did it take you to dig up an obsolete English word?
Yes, I know it's inconceivable to you, but unlike you, I don't have to
look up such words.
catpandaddy
2008-10-11 23:29:58 UTC
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How long did it take you to dig up an obsolete English word?
Yes, I know it's inconceivable to you, but unlike you, I don't have to
look up such words.
Would you consider yourself more of an apostle or a pharisee?
e***@yahoo.com
2008-10-12 00:14:35 UTC
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How long did it take you to dig up an obsolete English word?
Yes, I know it's inconceivable to you, but unlike you, I don't have to
look up such words.
Would you consider yourself more of an apostle or a pharisee?
He's actually a Roman centurian.
socrates
2008-10-11 15:32:54 UTC
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If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change.  If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long.  Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
For once I can say it: I almost completely agree with you! "Almost"
because it's actually gone on for about 55 years too long.
Mr. judgmental, with emphasis in mental.
Aren't you judging also? :)
e***@yahoo.com
2008-10-11 15:40:46 UTC
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Post by Augustine
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change.  If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long.  Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
For once I can say it: I almost completely agree with you! "Almost"
because it's actually gone on for about 55 years too long.
Mr. judgmental, with emphasis in mental.
Aren't you judging also? :)
Yes! Long ago I judged Jackson to be a time waster.
socrates
2008-10-12 12:58:00 UTC
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Post by Augustine
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change.  If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long.  Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
For once I can say it: I almost completely agree with you! "Almost"
because it's actually gone on for about 55 years too long.
Mr. judgmental, with emphasis in mental.
Aren't you judging also? :)
Yes!  Long ago I judged Jackson to be a time waster.
So you're both judgemental?
e***@yahoo.com
2008-10-12 15:56:18 UTC
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Post by Augustine
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change.  If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long.  Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
For once I can say it: I almost completely agree with you! "Almost"
because it's actually gone on for about 55 years too long.
Mr. judgmental, with emphasis in mental.
Aren't you judging also? :)
Yes!  Long ago I judged Jackson to be a time waster.
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Your OCD is showing. Take your meds.
d***@gmail.com
2008-10-11 23:42:44 UTC
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Post by Augustine
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change.  If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long.  Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
For once I can say it: I almost completely agree with you! "Almost"
because it's actually gone on for about 55 years too long.
Jackson why don't you amputate that part of your anatomy that has 30
years of head banging, and dope smoking residue left in it, you'd feel
allot better my Son.
Lutemann
2008-10-12 13:00:49 UTC
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If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change. �If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long. �Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
For once I can say it: I almost completely agree with you! "Almost"
because it's actually gone on for about 55 years too long.
I disagree. I'm not going to pretend that I don't like rock music. I
found it very exciting in 1955 and enjoyed it's evolution through the
60's, although I never got into buying records.Much more sophisticated
styles have cone and gone over the last century or so, and they've
come and gone a lot faster. I think th reason rock has lasted so long
is that people forgot how to read music.
Wollybird
2008-10-10 23:30:18 UTC
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If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change.  If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long.  Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
I predict a rebirth of banjo music
John R.
2008-10-11 00:51:32 UTC
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Post by Wollybird
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change.  If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long.  Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
I predict a rebirth of banjo music
That is silly -- who can afford banjos in a depression? No, I predict a
renaisance in playing spoons.



John
Wollybird
2008-10-11 01:24:23 UTC
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If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change.  If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long.  Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
I predict a rebirth of banjo music
That is silly -- who can afford banjos in a depression?  No, I predict a
renaisance in playing spoons.
http://youtu.be/9C3gpIwk_FQ
John
those are those fancy boy banjos you people from Dallas drive up to
Kansas City to buy. I mean the ones made out of simple wooden hoops
with goat skin stretched over them. Appalachian Banjos
http://www.appalachiandulcimers.com/fretlessbanjo.htm
I would guess they go well with spoons
Alain Reiher
2008-10-11 02:27:37 UTC
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Post by Wollybird
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change. If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long. Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
I predict a rebirth of banjo music
That is silly -- who can afford banjos in a depression? No, I predict a
renaisance in playing spoons.
http://youtu.be/9C3gpIwk_FQ
John
Even cheaper!



Alain
Wollybird
2008-10-11 02:57:09 UTC
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Post by Wollybird
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change. If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long. Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
I predict a rebirth of banjo music
That is silly -- who can afford banjos in a depression?  No, I predict a
renaisance in playing spoons.
http://youtu.be/9C3gpIwk_FQ
John
Even cheaper!
http://youtu.be/FcFyl8amoEE
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Or this:

John R.
2008-10-11 04:10:58 UTC
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If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change. If
I never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing
over- arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike
(playing rock music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone
on for 25 years to
o
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Post by Wollybird
long. Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
I predict a rebirth of banjo music
That is silly -- who can afford banjos in a depression?  No, I
predic
t a
Post by Alain Reiher
renaisance in playing spoons.
http://youtu.be/9C3gpIwk_FQ
John
Even cheaper!
http://youtu.be/FcFyl8amoEE
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http://youtu.be/bctg8nWcubE
I'm looking forward to the Homespun DVD on this!

John
Lutemann
2008-10-12 13:08:37 UTC
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Post by Wollybird
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change. If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long. Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
I predict a rebirth of banjo music
That is silly -- who can afford banjos in a depression? �No, I predict a
renaisance in playing spoons.
http://youtu.be/9C3gpIwk_FQ
John
Even cheaper!
http://youtu.be/FcFyl8amoEE
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I liked the clapping piece but it would have been a lot more effective
if he had changed it up a bit. Maybe some call and response and unison
rhythms instead of mostly counterpoint.
John R.
2008-10-12 15:11:06 UTC
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Post by Wollybird
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change. If
I never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing
over- arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike
(playing rock music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone
on for 25 years to
o
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Post by Wollybird
long. Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
I predict a rebirth of banjo music
That is silly -- who can afford banjos in a depression? ï¿œNo, I
predict a
Post by Alain Reiher
renaisance in playing spoons.
http://youtu.be/9C3gpIwk_FQ
John
Even cheaper!
http://youtu.be/FcFyl8amoEE
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I liked the clapping piece but it would have been a lot more effective
if he had changed it up a bit. Maybe some call and response and unison
rhythms instead of mostly counterpoint.
Yes, I fast-forwarded through it and it was always the same! Funny!

John
Curmudgeon
2008-10-11 12:28:08 UTC
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Post by Wollybird
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change.  If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long.  Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
I predict a rebirth of banjo music
From a Gary Larson cartoon: Guy standing at Pearly Gates. St. Peter
says, "Welcome to heaven. Here's your harp." Another guy standing at
gate to Hell. Satan says, "Welcome to Hell. Here's your accordion."
Richard Spross
2008-10-11 17:33:57 UTC
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Post by Wollybird
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change.  If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years
too long.  Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
I predict a rebirth of banjo music
From a Gary Larson cartoon: Guy standing at Pearly Gates. St. Peter
says, "Welcome to heaven. Here's your harp." Another guy standing at
gate to Hell. Satan says, "Welcome to Hell. Here's your accordion."
Then there was the one where Segovia has entered the anti room and
St.Peter is standing there gesturing towards an open door, with .....
Burl Ives and friends playing banjo. Segovia looked distressed.

Richard Spross
catpandaddy
2008-10-11 19:07:20 UTC
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From a Gary Larson cartoon: Guy standing at Pearly Gates. St. Peter says,
"Welcome to heaven. Here's your harp." Another guy standing at gate to
Hell. Satan says, "Welcome to Hell. Here's your accordion."
I really think you should check this out:


John R.
2008-10-11 20:10:39 UTC
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Post by catpandaddy
..
Post by Curmudgeon
From a Gary Larson cartoon: Guy standing at Pearly Gates. St. Peter
says, "Welcome to heaven. Here's your harp." Another guy standing at
gate to Hell. Satan says, "Welcome to Hell. Here's your accordion."
http://youtu.be/UBmajjf5WKE
Bravo!
Richard Spross
2008-10-11 00:44:11 UTC
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Post by Lutemann
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change. If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long. Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
Is the radio ad for AT&T wireless service being beamed at you?
It has these two late 20 early 30 guys in a club, where one has
just spent some money to hook up to the wireless connection.

In the background is a floosey sounding woman singing out of tune
strumming her folk guitar and she's crooning to her imaginary lover.
"Oh Larry Oh Larry, I want you to marry me.
Meanwhile one guy says to the other, "Hey I'm not into the singer
songwriter thing. The other guy protests, "But we have to stay I just
paid for the wireless service. Whereupon the first guy gives the pitch
for AT&T. Then second guy, says, "she's not that bad!!" ( believe me she
is ), After which we hear her sing, " Oh Larry, Oh Larry , I'm growing
more hair on me! Followed by further unintelligible words, and the
second guy then says. "Yeah lets get out here!!"

It has to take some kind of an award. If I never hear it again I'll be
thankful, but the problem with corporate run media is that this kind of
stuff gets repeated day in and day out year in and year out, in some kind
of attempt to break down our will to not buy.

Cheers,
Richard Spross
e***@yahoo.com
2008-10-11 01:19:43 UTC
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If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change.  If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long.  Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
Old fart. Just listen to the music you like and don't denegrate the
musical taste of others.
e***@yahoo.com
2008-10-11 15:16:49 UTC
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If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change.  If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long.  Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
Kent,

In the vein of rock music, XM has a temporary channel of all AC/DC
music. I've been listening off and on. Keep in mind we I'm talking
about rock music, okay?

I'm finding that Angus Young is a very tasteful rock guitarist. He is
a very good rhythm player and uses many ornaments we use. He varies
his rhythm work with staccato and legato chord passages, cresc/
decresc. His lead work is surprisingly tasteful. I hear a lot of
trills and other ornaments going on. He creatively varies the 2 or 3
solos he takes in a song so they are almost variations on a theme. He
just doesn't change the tone or pickups or stompboxes and play the
same solo. One solo had the inner notes trilled while the outer notes
decayed. He has a knack for the riffing style between rhythm and lead
work. There are a few classical players who can't do that.

For that genre I think he stands out.

Of course, YMMV.
Alain Reiher
2008-10-11 16:21:28 UTC
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If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change. If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long. Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.


Ok, ok, I know you can't change!

Alain
Augustine
2008-10-11 17:25:15 UTC
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I'm finding that Angus Young is a very tasteful rock guitarist.  
Of course, YMMV.
Of course, you realize that this is only a further testament to your
debased tastes?
e***@yahoo.com
2008-10-11 18:30:40 UTC
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Post by Augustine
I'm finding that Angus Young is a very tasteful rock guitarist.  
Of course, YMMV.
Of course, you realize that this is only a further testament to your
debased tastes?
Taste Schmaste. You live a joyless life and have no fun. You mom
still does your wash! And you dad still pays your rent!
catpandaddy
2008-10-11 19:15:29 UTC
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Post by Augustine
Post by e***@yahoo.com
I'm finding that Angus Young is a very tasteful rock guitarist.
Of course, YMMV.
Of course, you realize that this is only a further testament to your
debased tastes?
Taste Schmaste. You live a joyless life and have no fun. You mom still
does your wash! And you dad still pays your rent!
And he still has yet to... oh, skip it.
e***@yahoo.com
2008-10-11 18:32:48 UTC
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Post by Augustine
I'm finding that Angus Young is a very tasteful rock guitarist.  
Of course, YMMV.
Of course, you realize that this is only a further testament to your
debased tastes?
Here you go...

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/79/79tdouchebag.phtml
Lutemann
2008-10-12 13:13:28 UTC
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Post by e***@yahoo.com
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change. �If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long. �Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
Kent,
In the vein of rock music, XM has a temporary channel of all AC/DC
music. �I've been listening off and on. �Keep in mind we I'm talking
about rock music, okay?
I'm finding that Angus Young is a very tasteful rock guitarist. �He is
a very good rhythm player and uses many ornaments we use. �He varies
his rhythm work with staccato and legato chord passages, cresc/
decresc. �His lead work is surprisingly tasteful. �I hear a lot of
trills and other ornaments going on. �He creatively varies the 2 or 3
solos he takes in a song so they are almost variations on a theme. �He
just doesn't change the tone or pickups or stompboxes and play the
same solo. �One solo had the inner notes trilled while the outer notes
decayed. �He has a knack for the riffing style between rhythm and lead
work. �There are a few classical players who can't do that.
For that genre I think he stands out.
Of course, YMMV.
I'm not saying there aren't great players and performers out there,
I'm just tired of the style played at ear damaging levels. But what I
like even less is Smooth Jazz. Most of it is just pop music without
the vocals.
Alain Reiher
2008-10-11 16:34:35 UTC
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Post by Lutemann
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change. If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long. Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
In fact R'&R' has entered its classical phase ...



Alain
Richard Spross
2008-10-11 17:37:38 UTC
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Post by Lutemann
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change. If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long. Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
We must all remember that some of our cherished literature was once upon
a time a popular street dance i.e. Canarios.

The Sarabande used to be a wild and wooly street dance as well and
eventually became tempered down to 'stately'. Those of you conversant
in musical history can doubtless cite other examples. Robert Crim, MO,
AG, AN?

Richard Spross
Robert Crim
2008-10-11 19:24:13 UTC
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:37:38 GMT, Richard Spross
Post by Richard Spross
Post by Lutemann
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change. If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long. Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
We must all remember that some of our cherished literature was once upon
a time a popular street dance i.e. Canarios.
The Sarabande used to be a wild and wooly street dance as well and
eventually became tempered down to 'stately'. Those of you conversant
in musical history can doubtless cite other examples. Robert Crim, MO,
AG, AN?
Richard Spross
I'm not conversant with the American R&R forms of today (except for
the ones that boom in at traffic lights), but I have a hard time
imagining any of them lasting as long as the Pavan, Galliard,
Allemande, Courante, Sarabande, Gigue, Minuet, Gavotte, Bourée,
Rigaudon, Passepied, Chaconne, Passacaglia, Bassa danza, Ballo,
Tordion, Canario, Passomezzo, Country dance, Cotillion, Quadrille,
Mazurka. or Waltz.

I do think that many of the Delta Blues and Bluegrass forms will be
long lasting. The stuff on most radio stations today?.......I think
the usual 1-4-5-1 progressions sprinkled with a few wierd notes gets
on my nerves because it is just tiresome.

An artist friend from long ago said that "art is anything that can
hold your interest." She was right, IMO.

I also like the MTV Spring Break programs with the sound off.

Robert
Richard Spross
2008-10-11 23:19:18 UTC
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Post by Richard Spross
Post by Lutemann
If the stock market falls, at least the pop music may change. If I
never hear another white guy with an electric guitar playing over-
arranged diatonic folk songs while moaning into a mike (playing rock
music), it will be too soon. The rock era has gone on for 25 years too
long. Maybe social upheaval will make it go away.
We must all remember that some of our cherished literature was once upon
a time a popular street dance i.e. Canarios.
The Sarabande used to be a wild and wooly street dance as well and
eventually became tempered down to 'stately'. Those of you conversant in
musical history can doubtless cite other examples. Robert Crim, MO, AG,
AN?
Richard Spross
I'm not conversant with the American R&R forms of today (except for the
ones that boom in at traffic lights), but I have a hard time imagining
any of them lasting as long as the Pavan, Galliard, Allemande, Courante,
Sarabande, Gigue, Minuet, Gavotte, Bourée, Rigaudon, Passepied,
Chaconne, Passacaglia, Bassa danza, Ballo, Tordion, Canario,
Passomezzo, Country dance, Cotillion, Quadrille, Mazurka. or Waltz.
I do think that many of the Delta Blues and Bluegrass forms will be long
lasting. The stuff on most radio stations today?.......I think the
usual 1-4-5-1 progressions sprinkled with a few wierd notes gets on my
nerves because it is just tiresome.
An artist friend from long ago said that "art is anything that can hold
your interest." She was right, IMO.
I also like the MTV Spring Break programs with the sound off.
Robert
Well said.

Thank you.
Richard Spross
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